How much money is enough to satisfy you? If you had to choose a dollar amount that would make you say “I’ve got what I need, I can retire happy now,” what would that dollar amount be?

That’s what BigMike asks “Boston” George Jung in this episode of Business Outlaws. It’s not an easy question to answer, and it’s not something most people ever really think about. But when he was facing jail time and the prospect of losing everything he’d built, BigMike asked himself that very question. And in his years as one of the most prolific cocaine smugglers in the world, chronicled in the Johnny Depp film Blow, Jung faced this same dilemma.

“I was a thrill junkie,” guest “Boston” George Jung tells BigMike and Chris “Bulldog” Collins in this episode of Business Outlaws. Jung’s no stranger to immeasurably huge financial success and the dangerous realities that come with pursuing it. You’ve seen Blow and heard Jung’s name, but here’s your only opportunity to listen to him tell his story in his own words. It’s not just flying planes over the border and dropping tons of cocaine and sitting at Pablo Escobar’s table; it’s a story of self-reflection and evolving perspectives on who we are and why we do the things we do. “We’re all here for a reason,” he tells our hosts. Listen now to hear Jung’s reason.

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